Life Takes Over

It’s the beginning of the end.  Watch the Giant with Feet of Clay crumble. A train wreck in slow motion. There’s more sense being said about AR5 than would have been imaginable eighteen months ago when drafts were available. In fact some of the media coverage (e.g. Newsnight) has been jaw-droppingly almost balanced in both invited participants and the line of questioning.

As the CAGW frenzy  whipped up by the overstatement of zealous believers and compliant shut down of debate in the media was increasingly untenable, reasoned debate has begun to happen and the imperative ‘need’ to blog melted away.

Normal life has taken over, or, I should say, has resumed at last.

No, I’m not entirely done with blogging, but I’m shocked to find 10 ideas for posts in drafts with the last post on 28th July.  In the interim, there’s been (in order): a major deadline at work, a family holiday, an accident with a close relative hospitalised (but now home and mobile again), illness (me, short term, now recovered), another major deadline at work, lots of home DIY and a significant family birthday.  Blogging just not important anymore.

And more than that – I’m bored with the climate debate. It seems as if it’s all been said before. But. as they say, ‘It’s not over ’til the fat lady sings’.

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40 Responses to Life Takes Over

  1. catweazle666 says:

    Indeed, Verity.

    I think perhaps, as a wise man once said, “now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning”.

  2. PeterMG says:

    Verity I think that many people share your views. I no longer open a browser and go strait to “Watts up with that” to learn of the latest piece of skulduggery going on in climate science. In fact Climate science bores me to death now. They have so little to add to scientific knowledge its probably best we don’t call them scientists. And those who create computer models are definitely not scientists.

    For my sins I now work with computers and also in a financial institution, having been forced on from my bellowed mechanical engineering. I wouldn’t call myself a banker though, and I wouldn’t call those that created the financial models bankers either. But I would say that both groups of modellers have taken their respective employers up on to the road to rack and ruin, and both operate in a parallel universe completely detached from reality.

    Today I accept that the CAGW frenzy was always political, and that as always when politics takes over life, power and money are stripped from the economy. This is why so many ordinary people have blogged against CAGW. That CAGW is dying is not disputed, but how long it takes to completely die and just how much further damage it does are hotly debated topics.

    Those who were “early sceptics” for want of a better term moved on some time ago. My soapbox now is now “how do we prevent this happening again?” And I don’t mean scientific blunders, they will always happen, no I’m thinking how do we stop minority pressure groups becoming the majority voice, and causing our “democracy” ha ha turning into an image of the old Soviet Union.

    There is a danger for many Climate blogs that if they don’t recognise what lies at the root of CAGW and that they themselves will be slowly swallowed into the science establishment and begin to churn out the same rubbish. In science and engineering its possible to know something is wrong, but not be able to prove it or get the right answer for completely the wrong reason. This is what makes science exciting and I hope that there is a revolution in our scientific establishment to root out “consensus science” and get back to real science where it only take one voice to trash a theory.

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  4. Otter says:

    I look forward to being able to put this climate stuff behind me, also. I have my own science-fiction to write, without having to deal with the IPCC’s!

  5. I suspect that Jeff Id, Verity, Chiefio and others are cutting back on their blogging about climate science because it is like beating a dead horse.

    I look forward to them finding more interesting things to discuss.

  6. Bloke down the pub says:

    It’s nice to see you’re still in the land of the blogging Verity.

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  8. I think we are deluding ourselves if we believe that the crew on board the IPCC super tanker has even noticed sceptics, let along have begun to alter course to take into account their comments.

    Looks like the climate establishment is slowly grinding us into the dust and realise that our stamina and resources are less than theirs..


    • Keitho says:

      You have only lost when you give up Tony. I know what you and Verity mean though, it does sometimes feel like we are the dogs barking at the caravan as it passes by.

      The whole thing is political and the power politics bring. That is why it is so frustrating because “they” control the medium and the message to such an extent that right and wrong don’t feature. I take heart in the minor changes that Harper and Abbott are making and George Osborne is making some encouraging noises too.

      In the meantime we have to go up against the mini demons at SkS and in the Guardian, Huffpo and the like over and over and over. Nothing good comes easy.

    • PeterMG says:

      Tony you would be surprised at how much behind the scenes work Is quietly going on to offer hope to everyone that there is a way to change the political system so that when the good ship IPCC sinks we don’t allow the building of another one. This is not about political parties, but more about finding a way that we the people have to agree by referendum before our political class can go off spending OUR money on crazy schemes. It may take 30 years to come to fruition, but rest assured it will.

      The reason I’m so confident is that the political class and their Keynesian economic model are driving the entire western worlds economy into the buffers. So the call for change will only get stronger and people will search for new ideas about the way we are governed.

      The period that we call the industrial revolution, or the age of reason, saw the biggest transfer of wealth from those who owned land to those who created wealth and worked. Living standards rose comparatively faster than at any other time. Suddenly anyone could become rich and not own half a county. The key ingredient to facilitate this change was energy. There is a clear ratio of energy cost to GDP beyond which growth, innovation and wealth creation stops. The West is on the wrong side of the equation. No amount of money can fix this; if it could then Obama and the Fed would have cracked it with their 85 billion dollar per month money printing exercise that has continued since 2008.

      Today in the age of stupid, which started just before the first World War, comparative living standards are failing, the top 5% having a greater proportion of earnings than at any time since the start of the industrial revolution. Given that energy is the key to our world, could there be anyone still thinking that the whole CAGW meme was anything other than a political ploy? Environmentalist have been conned, scientists have been lazy and deserving our strongest ire, education has been distorted, and the legacy media has changed into 4th gear on its rush to irrelevance.

      We need to move to the age of enlightenment without delay and once more get back to doing what humans do best and have done for thousands of years, innovate.

  9. higley7 says:

    However, do not forget that the CAGW was simply the propaganda front for the UN’s Agenda 21 which is still in play and needs to be countered, squashed, and canceled everywhere it is being promulgated. The UN has to be dissolved.

    Agenda 21 is evil incarnate as the UN seeks to subvert the world and become the one-world power, imposing by force a totalitarian/communist government on the unarmed world peoples.

    Oh, there is loads left to do in this world, fighting the evil of the UN. Their main excuse (CAGW) may be dying but they still have their Protect Biodiversity and World Sustainability programs in full force.

    Our biodiversity is not only fine, but it cannot be defined and there is no way to protect it other than simply leaving the world alone from man; not a reasonable possibility. Sustainability is also undefinable (the UN cannot define it) and, as the world is constantly changing, there is no such thing as sustainability of a culture, society, or economy. It is also impossible to predict what those in the world of the future will need. WIth decades at least of cooling ahead, they would have us looking in the wrong direction and making many bad choices.

    • jeremyp99 says:

      “Sustainability”, said the leader of a group of African farmers at Rio+20, “for us means poverty and malnutrition”.

      Sustainability. A Western luxury. Like Veganism.

  10. Annie Oakley - MAWT says:

    Reblogged this on Mothers Against Wind Turbines and commented:
    I envy you Verity. To feel that CAGW has been emasculated enough to no longer pose a threat or to label as boring. I’m sick of all this too. Unfortunately, although this climate change monster is dead we slaughtered it while it was standing on a mountain top. As its carcass rolls downward, it will still devastate and destroy. In our politically poisoned province of Ontario our battle against renewables is coming to a boiling point. We are steadily and stealthily being plastered with wind turbines, transmission and collector lines, roads and all sorts of global warming cult paraphernalia. This great battle is just beginning and the winner is still very uncertain. Verity, step back for a while and regroup. We still need you.

  11. jeremyp99 says:

    Over? I fear not…

    Neue Zürcher Zeitung, 14 November 2010

    Climate policy has almost nothing to do anymore with environmental protection, says the German economist and IPCC official Ottmar Edenhofer. The next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated. – Ottmar Edenhofer

    For those who may not know, Ottmar Edenhofer is the co-chair of the IPCC Working Group III.

  12. papiertigre says:

    That scene from Apollo 13 the movie ” Just breathe normal, fellas.”

    “And you, my friend, are a steely-eyed missleman.”

  13. Verity Jones says:

    Well it is nice to be back and a pleasant surprise to get top-billing on the WUWT hotsheet. My blog stats have given me my very own hockey stick!

    @Otter 😉 So what sort do you write?

    @Gallopingcamel – yes so much to do – so little time. I hope you enjoyed your holiday. I was sorry my schedule didn’t allow us to meet up – that would have been fun.

    @ Bloke down the pub – thank you. Nice to be missed.

    @climatereason – ah but Tony the general public never bought it, and the media is starting to open up to questioning the consensus. It is almost acceptable to be critical – why I heard on the radio news this evening on a report about possible blackouts this winter, an interviewee say (in an almost critical tone) that the recent focus on climate was to blame (or words to that effect). Unthinkable last year.

    @Keitho – exactly. However don’t underestimate the power of a turning tide.

    @higley7 and jeremy99 – sadly I do wish we had more common sense. It seems that as a resource it ‘peaked’ last century.

    @Annie Oakley – will do my best.

  14. Another Ian says:


    A danger here – like government funding being cut when a successful end seems in the bag.

    Like the story of the cutting of funds for the eradication of screw worm fly from southern USA as it looked near its goal – to have to do it all over again.

  15. I do not agree it is about politics, it is about belief.

    Yes politics have taken the belief and used and abused it to their own ends, and they are now finding it hard to row back their from their hysterical economy wrecking policies which are strangling the western world. Whilst the beliefs continue the hysteria will continue.

    The problem is that the science world allowed this happen. The science world allowed words like “denier” and “consensus” enter into the lexicon of popular science debate. It was so obviously wrong and offensive to anyone who is passionate about science and scientific method. Scientists from other fields should have stood up and said this is not science as we know science to be. Instead many joined in, even reputable institutions like the Royal Society condoned and allowed this to happen. Yuk!

    The politics will die with the beliefs, and the beliefs will die after the scientists stand up and say clearly that what has been put forward in the name of science was not science at all.

    Verity and Peter MG say they are bored. Well I am sorry, you are not passionate about the reputation of science. I am an artist, I have no scientific standing or reputation, I find the figures and graphs hard to follow, but I am more offended and passionate than you are – does that make you feel good? No wonder this problem is still not being fixed, with such weak advocates for science amongst scientists how can we hope that the science community will ever clean up this mess they have made and presented the world with?

    Until this mess is cleared up you cannot afford to be bored, any more than you can be satisfied with a turd left uncleaned up in your labs.

    • PeterMG says:

      Julian in Wales I think you may misunderstand my position. I am passionate about science, always have been. I’m originally from Rotorua in New Zealand, an area of active volcanic activity, and close by Taupo is the site of one of the three great super volcanos, and the last one to erupt a mere 2000 years ago, albeit that eruption was small by comparison to the one 26,000 years ago that put over 1000 cu km of material into the atmosphere. The caldera it left is now lake Taupo which is 80km (50 miles) across and aw inspiring to think this thing was a huge volcano Alas all the super volcano publicity is about Yellowstone that last erupted millions of years ago. As a 15 year old I witnessed another close by volcano Mt Ruapehu erupting. That was a frightening and exciting thing to witness I can tell you.

      What bores me about climate science is the lack of joined up thinking. It didn’t take me long to figure that the infra red absorption and re-radiating properties of CO2 were not responsible for the changes in our climate. CO2 levels in our atmosphere have always been higher than they are today, and I don’t mean by just a few part per million, no for most of earths history CO2 has been the primary gas in the atmosphere. CO2 ranks along side water as the most important molecule to life and 99.9% of life depends on CO2. Any notion it is harmful is so far off the wall as to be beyond sensible comment.

      It also bores me how so many other scientists ignore their own research and figures on various subjects because todays climate scientists have decreed that our atmosphere has always been there or there about as it is today which is just nonsense when looking at the geological evidence. It is nonsense when you try and explain how the dinosaurs grew so large. They certainly could not today in our 1 bar atmosphere where an African Elephant is the limit, but that does not stop hordes of palaeontologists from coming up with far fetched theories that often contradict one and other and for ever ignoring the most obvious answer that our atmosphere was thicker.

      I could go on and on with examples, but would just like to comment on another point you raise. I’m an engineer not a scientist, but let me assure you its not just non scientist like yourself that find many of the graphs and tables mystifying. I think many of us do and that is why we have been lucky to have people like Steve McIntyre of Climate Audit who had the necessary skills in statistics to pick apart and debunk the tree ring data that was being used as proof of Global Warming. Anthony Watts of Watts up with that audited all the temperature stations in the US to show that a) they were not fit for purpose as temperature stations for measuring climate change, (but perfectly acceptable as weather stations) and b) much of the increase was due to urban sprawl.

      However good Steve and Anthony were at bringing to the attention of the world how the data was being distorted this did not address the fundamental physics of the atmosphere and explain how the earth has been on average 10 degrees warmer through out its history except for relatively short periods of ice.

      We have much to understand but everything is stalled at present due to this retched consensus. This is why I say scientist have been lazy and deserve our greatest ire. I have not given up, but turned my attention to the political arena which is the only place where we can really fix this issue.

      • Tonyb (climatereason) may be having a bad day if he thinks that the good ship IPCC is sailing on unscathed. They are done; their goose is cooked. It is time for us to set our sights on bigger targets.

        As suggested by “higley7” we should be taking a close look at Agenda 21 and related efforts to centralize power into the hands of fewer and fewer people.

        In 1917 Robert Michels with his “Iron Law of Oligarchies” opined that all forms of government tend to concentrate power. I wish it were not so but take a look around you before telling me that Michels was wrong.

  16. Brian H says:

    Money has its own momentum and force. So much has already been committed, so many companies and careers created out of “thin air” and will hang on literally for dear life, that it’s hard to realistically project they will just vanish. If the door is open even a crack they will push through.

  17. Earthling says:

    A religion like Glowbull warming will never die completely, it will haunt us till we breathe our last.

  18. Ryan says:

    Verity, Many thanks for the contributions at digging in the clay. I also believe that the CAGW roadshow is dying and will soon be dead. I think Mother Nature saw to that, rather than the small army of bloggers laying down sniper fire. But the credibility of the “scientists” was torn to shreds by those skeptic snipers, and that’s important, because those corrupt scientists won’t go away. They will appear in some new guise, and even if they don’t the corrupt academic structures that allowed such ideas to fester are still in place.

    CAGW was allowed to develop and fester as and idea because there existed a power vacuum in which it could flourish. But the power vacuum did not last long. Skeptical engineers, retired meterologists, physicists and many others were prepared to stand up to the nonsense. A small army of middle-class professionals stood up to be counted. Every dictatorship in history has hated the middle-class professional – they know full well we understand what they are up to and will set about undermining them. In our dictatorship masquerading as “democracy” the dictators have decided the best way to neutralise the middle-classes is to keep them so busy they never have time to organise, and keep them sufficiently well-paid they are effectively “bought off”. It’s time that came to an end, because the tweedle-dum tweedle-dee dictatorships that run most Western democracies have no aspiration other than the aspiration to aquire power. For our children, we should aspire to a better world and that means circumnavigating the politicians and political lobby groups that would stnad in our way.

    Finally, I would like to say the fight againts corrupt science in the general sense is far from over. Just as one example, we are living in a sexualised society defined by Sigmund Freud, Alfred Kinsey, Shere Hite and Germaine Greer. Almost a century of pseudo-science that has defined our thinking on human sexuality. All it has achieved is spread a lot of human misery and sold a lot of oral contraceptives to women that actually prefer chocolate. It really is time we took on that much bigger subject.

  19. John Whitman says:


    There does appear to be more of an open and moderately balanced dialog now instead of closed alarming monologue.

    I remain very concerned that the causes and premises that gave us an irrational movement like CAGW have not been removed from Western Civilization even as the CAGW movement dissipates.

    I think none of the causes and premises were even pursued.


  20. Another Ian says:


    I was told about the US’s two go’s at screw worm eradication by a vet in the area.

    And another ststistic to help you keep the watch up comes from New Zealand.

    At a conference on introduced pest control one speaker gave the results of what was involved with total eradication of some of the same on off-shore NZ islands.

    The punch line was that to get the last 1% took as much time and money as the first 99%.

    Now (hopefully) the winds of change might mean that people like yourself might have less to watch for in a wider network, but watch you will still have to do IMO. As will comment forwarders like me.

  21. Verity Jones says:

    Folks – really enjoying all the comments! I’ve a work deadline tomorrow so hope to get stuckinto replies tomorrow evening.

  22. mwhite says:

    It’s not over yet

    And that was last winter.

    The close down of our present generating capacity is on time, but the replacements are 3 years behind. And what of these replacements? presumably more windmills.

    Who will the politicians blame? Everyone but themselves.

    Remember, a few weeks ago Ed Miliband told every one who might want to invest in the energy industry – You may well not get your money back.

    “Ignacio Galán says his company may pull out of £15bn investment programme if profits are risked by Ed Miliband’s plan”

    • I have just returned from a visit to my homeland. It was great to find newspapers that took more than 10 minutes to read.

      It was alarming to find that anyone close to the levers of power (as Ed Miliband is) could propose price controls without being laughed into obscurity.

      Take a look at what rent control achieved in London, Chicago and New York. Rent control started out as an attempt to make rents affordable but had exactly the opposite effect.

      Likewise, Ed Milliband’s attempt to control energy prices by fiat will raise the cost of energy. Unintended consequences trump good intentions.

      If Miliband or anyone else is serious about making energy affordable he would be proposing a British version of the 1975 Mesmer plan while encouraging the development of frakking gas to take over where North Sea oil left off.

      Miliband caused energy companies to lose billions of pounds in market capitalization simply by flapping his lips. He reminds me of Ahmedinijad who can affect the price of oil by flapping his lips.

  23. Another Ian says:



    Sounds like (to me anyway) a thing not to be lost – as some of the aforementioned famous names seem to have

  24. Wayne Job says:

    A coldening world over the next decade will be the death of AGW, those pushing its agenda will find another reason to blame and shame us of the west. Success as nations have made us easy targets of propaganda, and our less than intelligent political class will follow along. To succeed in beating the agenda of those over lords whom wish to rule us we need to find and vote in to power intelligent people.

  25. Earthling says:

    Never give in to climate catastrophists, or they’ll have our grandkids living in the 1900s.

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